As the UW system announces that more campuses will be shuttered over the next years, Dr. Tim and Dr. Johnny reflect on the options and pitfalls that lay ahead. Together, they delve into the pressing issues facing higher education today, including a significant decline in FAFSA submissions and the potential closures of colleges due to financial struggles. They explore how these challenges reflect broader questions about the value of higher education, the impact on small communities, and the evolving needs of students in a changing economic landscape. The discussion also touches on the importance of adapting to serve non-traditional students and rethinking the economic model of higher education to ensure it remains accessible and relevant. Through conversations with callers, the episode highlights the complex factors contributing to these trends and the critical need for solutions that support students and institutions alike.